Dani said "Let's start by making a casual observation: The Universe is real and it exists. The universe is everything that exists. Everything that exists, exists as part of the universe.
Dani said "An infinite, supernatural Creator who exists outside the natural laws of the Universe created everything. There is no other possibility! God is the first cause..."
For my own clarity let me rephrase and see if I get this right...Every existing thing has a cause, and every cause must be caused by a prior cause, which in turn must be caused by a still prior cause, and so on until we reach a first cause, a being that does not require a causal explanation.
This argument asks us to look beyond the fact that the universe exists to find the explanation for its existence. With the idea that god is the explanation for the universe.
Basically an unknowable being using unknowable methods "caused" the universe to snap into existence. How did it create existence from nonexistence?
Dani started by saying that everything must have a cause and "God is the first cause." Yet, if everything has to have a cause, how did god become exempt?
If you say everything has to have a cause
god does not have a cause.
The conclusion (god does not have a cause) is contradicted by the first argument (everything has to have a cause).
It is not logical to say, "the universe has to have a cause, god is the cause and there is no cause before him."
For knowledge, we build on what we do know to discover that which we do not know. It makes no rational sense to build on the unknown to explain what we know.
"All causality presupposes the existence of something that acts as a cause. To demand a cause for all of existence is to demand a contradiction: if the cause exists, it is part of existence; if it does not exist, it cannot be a cause...Causality presupposes existence, existence does not presuppose causality...Existence- not "god" is the First Cause." Nathaniel Branden
For something to have caused the universe, it must first exist. To exist is to be part of the universe. You cannot create that of which you are a part.